Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Swine Flu, McDonalds and Huntington.

Photo of La Gloria, Mexico, from: picasaweb.google.com/.../tPNgcKVn2Pb-Xf-o3wB8lA

Here are some pieces of the jigsaw.

1. Swine Flu and McDonalds

Maybe the swine flu is an accident, associated with factory farming and globalisation.

Maybe the swine flu started at a large pig producing facility in La Gloria in Mexico.

However, only ONE case of swine flu has been confirmed as having come from La Gloria.

Local and federal health officials are downplaying suggestions that the epidemic started in La Gloria.

(Swine Flu Baffles Experts And Raises More Questions Than Answers)

The local and federal health officials insist that the other cases of sickness from La Gloria were of a completely different and common strain of flu, H2N3.

Governor of Veracruz, Fidel Herrera has told the media there was not a single indicator that the epidemic started in La Gloria.

Miguel Angel Lezana, the director of the National Centre for Disease Control, said that genetic information in the H1N1 virus show it is more similar to types of flu that affect pigs in Central and East Asia. (Swine flu: Mexico claims it started in Asia)

Disinformation by the media?

By 29 April 2009, the world's media were interviewing the mother of 4-year-old Edgar Hernandez who reportedly got swine flu on 2nd April 2009.

(‘I had a headache and fever' says boy who survived - Times Online / 'I feel great,' says five-year-old Mexican boy living near 'ground ... )

Edgar comes from La Gloria in Veracruz in Mexico, where there is the giant US-owned Smithfield Foods pig production facility.

60% of the 3,000 residents of La Gloria reported getting sick, including three children aged under two, who later died.

Edgar is quoted as saying: 'I feel great. But I had a headache and a sore throat and a fever for a while. I had to lay down in bed.'

Reportedly, it was confirmed, on 27April 27 2009, that Edgar was the first known sufferer of swine flu.

According to the Times, 'residents of La Gloria have been complaining since March that the odour from Granjas Carroll’s pig waste was causing severe respiratory infections.'

There have been calls to exhume the bodies of the children who died of pneumonia so that they could be tested.

The Vera Cruz-based newspaper La Marcha blames Smithfield’s Granjos Carroll for the outbreak of sickness.

Mexico's Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova told reporters a sample taken from 4-year-old Edgar in Mexico's Veracruz state in early April tested positive for swine flu.

Smithfield spokeswoman Keira Ullrich said the company has found no clinical signs or symptoms of the presence of swine influenza in its swine herd or its employees working at its joint ventures anywhere in Mexico.

The company supplies the McDonald’s and Subway fast-food chains.

Mexican Agriculture Department officials said that its inspectors found no sign of swine flu among pigs around the farm in Veracruz, and that no infected pigs have been found yet anywhere in Mexico.

"However, Ochoa, the farm manager, said no one from the government has inspected his farm for swine flu." ('I feel great,' says five-year-old Mexican boy living near 'ground ...)

Smithfields was fined $12.3 million in the United States 1997 for violating the Clean Water Act.



Mexico City.

The Swine Flu story sounds like a psy-op:

2. Millions die in Mexico each year from diseases such as TB, typhoid and malaria.

But we don't hear much about that.

Due to high levels of poverty in Mexico, there is a tendency for outbreaks of flu to kill large numbers of people.

"During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection." - Flu Pandemic Morbidity / Mortality

3. In the USA and Canada, flu symptoms have been described as mild.

"Several students experienced flu symptoms after they returned but they were so mild that they didn't raise any concerns." (Swine flu hits Canada)

This swine flu's a "relative lightweight" (Swine flu's a relative lightweight.)

The first reports of swine infections in Mexico came in mid-March.

The current swine flu strain still has fewer than 1,000 reported cases.

Vivienne Allan of the World Health Organisation said the body had confirmed that worldwide there have been just seven deaths from swine flu - all in Mexico.

(Only 7 swine flu deaths, not 152, says WHO smh.com.au / The Truth Seeker - Only 7 swine flu deaths, not 152, says WHO )

Remember: "During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection." - Flu Pandemic Morbidity / Mortality

So, why is publicity for the flu coming now?

4. The Flu Kills The Torture Memos

And reports of the Lockerbie Bomb case appeal (Lockerbie bomber launches second appeal).

5. And, certain fascist swine are hoping to make lots of money from selling vaccines.

Venture capital firm set to reap rewards on swine flu .

Firms Look to Prevent Swine Flu Pandemic, Turn a Profit - ABC News

Swine Flu: Who Profits? Clipmarks

"On March 20, 2009, this researcher outlined a peculiar PANDEMIC VACCINE TRAINING exercise in Texas scheduled to occur on Saturday, May 2, 2009." (http://www.rense.com/general85/dsd2.htm)

"There was a Swine Flu outbreak in 1976. President Gerald Ford asked that all Americans be innoculated.

"As it turned out, the disease only killed one person but the vaccine harmed hundreds and may have killed some." (This article addresses that question.)

6. And maybe the latest swine flu is meant to target certain groups?

Germ warfare `could target ethnic groups' acording to an article in The Independent

"Viruses ... tailored to detect the differences in the DNA of races could offer warmakers ... a new means to carry out 'ethnic cleansing'," said a panel convened by the British Medical Association (BMA).

7. Why Mexico?

Huntington

Samuel P Huntington saw a new threat to the United States: Mexicans.

"In The Hispanic Challenge, Huntington claims that 'the single most serious challenge to America’s traditional identity comes from the immense and continuing immigration from Latin America, especially from Mexico.'" - The Huntington Challenge: Why The Hispanic Challenge should be ...

Huntington and Hispanic immigration: "The extent and nature of this immigration differ fundamentally from those of previous immigration, and the assimilation successes of the past are unlikely to be duplicated with the contemporary flood of immigrants from Latin America.

"This reality poses a fundamental question: Will the United States remain a country with a single national language and a core Anglo-Protestant culture?" - Civilizations (print)

Samuel Phillips Huntington (April 18, 1927–December 24, 2008) was an American political scientist who gained prominence through his Clash of Civilizations (1993, 1996) thesis of a post-Cold War new world order.

And, Mexico and the USA have not been getting along too well.

There is a trade dispute.

Mexico raised tariffs on scores of U.S. imports - retaliation for Washington's decision to stop funding a program that allowed some Mexican trucks on U.S. highways under a free-trade agreement.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon and other top officials "let fly unusually sharp remarks about drug consumption and possible official corruption north of the border."

(Mexico's Drug War: U.S.-Mexico relationship hits some bumps.)

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aangirfan: Bird flu and profits at Roche



Swine Flu Psy Op

Mexico City.

The Swine Flu story sounds like a psy-op:

1. Millions die in Mexico each year from diseases such as TB, typhoid and malaria.

But we don't hear much about that.

Due to high levels of poverty in Mexico, there is a tendency for outbreaks of flu to kill large numbers of people.

"During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection." - Flu Pandemic Morbidity / Mortality

2. In the USA and Canada, flu symptoms have been described as mild.

"Several students experienced flu symptoms after they returned but they were so mild that they didn't raise any concerns." (Swine flu hits Canada)

This swine flu's a "relative lightweight" (Swine flu's a relative lightweight.)

The first reports of swine infections in Mexico came in mid-March.

The current swine flu strain still has fewer than 1,000 reported cases.

Remember: "During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection." - Flu Pandemic Morbidity / Mortality

So, why is publicity for the flu coming now?

3. The Flu Kills The Torture Memos

And reports of the Lockerbie Bomb case appeal (Lockerbie bomber launches second appeal).

4. And, certain fascist swine are hoping to make lots of money from selling vaccines.

"On March 20, 2009, this researcher outlined a peculiar PANDEMIC VACCINE TRAINING exercise in Texas scheduled to occur on Saturday, May 2, 2009." (http://www.rense.com/general85/dsd2.htm)

"There was a Swine Flu outbreak in 1976. President Gerald Ford asked that all Americans be innoculated.

"As it turned out, the disease only killed one person but the vaccine harmed hundreds and may have killed some." (This article addresses that question.)

5. And maybe the latest swine flu is meant to target certain groups?

Germ warfare `could target ethnic groups' acording to an article in The Independent

"Viruses ... tailored to detect the differences in the DNA of races could offer warmakers ... a new means to carry out 'ethnic cleansing'," said a panel convened by the British Medical Association (BMA).

6. Why Mexico?

Huntington

Samuel P Huntington saw a new threat to the United States: Mexicans.

"In The Hispanic Challenge, Huntington claims that 'the single most serious challenge to America’s traditional identity comes from the immense and continuing immigration from Latin America, especially from Mexico.'" - The Huntington Challenge: Why The Hispanic Challenge should be ...

Huntington and Hispanic immigration: "The extent and nature of this immigration differ fundamentally from those of previous immigration, and the assimilation successes of the past are unlikely to be duplicated with the contemporary flood of immigrants from Latin America.

"This reality poses a fundamental question: Will the United States remain a country with a single national language and a core Anglo-Protestant culture?" - Civilizations (print)

Samuel Phillips Huntington (April 18, 1927–December 24, 2008) was an American political scientist who gained prominence through his Clash of Civilizations (1993, 1996) thesis of a post-Cold War new world order.

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aangirfan: Bird flu and profits at Roche

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Sunday, April 19, 2009

Fake DNA evidence in Mumbai trial?

Alleged Mumbai terrorists

Ismail Khan, alias Abu Ismail, was reportedly the companion of alleged Mumbai gunman Mohammad Ajmal Amir ‘Kasab’.

DNA samples are being used in evidence.

Reportedly, the DNA samples provided by India for Ajmal and Ismail are identical and there is only a one-in-a-trillion chance of this happening in the case of twins.

"Media reports had said that in a dossier sent to Pakistan the DNA reports of arrested terrorist Mohammed Ajmal Kasab and the slain terrorist Abu Ismail were identical."

(Identical DNA reports 'minor clerical error': Chidambaram / Pakistan asks India to avoid lapses in Mumbai probe )

Reportedly, DNA on a number of items found on board a boat, allegedly used to transport the 'terrorists', matched exactly that of Kasab and his fellow attackers.

(Kasab may have been in Indian custody since 2006 - Terrorism: Ajmal held by India since before 2006 - lawyer)

Reportedly, Ismail 'was killed in the Chowpatty encounter.' (The Hindu : Front Page : Missed 26/11 target: Malabar Hill )

Reportedly, a diary written in Urdu by Abu Ismail details the daily timetable of the 10 gunmen. (Kasab trial: Cops bank on forensic proof )

Abu Ismail Dera Ismail Khan or Ismail Khan is said to be the leader [1] of the 10 terrorrists who are accused of involvement in the November 2008 Mumbai attacks.

He is reported to be 25 years old[2], and was reportedly killed after commandeering a car.

Reportedly, his companion in the car, Ajmal Amir told the police that Ismail was the one who killed Hemant Karkare, Ashok Kamte, and Vijay Salaskar in the attacks.

It all sounds a bit like the Lockerbie Bomb case?

(aangirfan: Police chief- Lockerbie evidence was faked)

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Wednesday, April 15, 2009

MUMBAI AND MARIA

Rakesh Maria, Mumbai's Joint Commissioner of Police.

A key figure in the trial of Kasab, in connection with the Mumbai attacks, is Rakesh Maria.

Reportedly, Rakesh Maria played a role in sending Karkare and colleagues to the area where they were shot.

Karkare was murdered after investigating the links between the 'terrorists' and elements of the Indian military and police.

onlybombay.blogspot.com tells us about Rakesh Maria (How did Salaskar, Kamate, Karkare die?) (Role of Rakesh Maria in deploying Karkare, Salaskar, Kamte)

Reportedly:

Anti Terrorism Squad chief Hemant Karkare, Ashok Kamte and Inspector Vijay Salaskar were at home when they heard about the 'terrorist' attacks.

Joint commissioner of police Rakesh Maria, who was at the control room, directed Salaskar to the Cama Hospital.

On his way, Salaskar met Karkare and they headed towards Special Branch Office at Dhobi Talao, right behind the Cama Hospital. Kamte joined them there.

The three of them got into a vehicle.

They intercepted a 'terrorist'.

Someone sprayed bullets from an AK-47 hitting Salaskar, Karkare, and Kamte.

Cama Hospital ©Juli Garzon www.lightstalkers.org/images/show/749075

Raveena Hansa, on 24 February 2009, at Tehelka, wrote about The Curious Tale of Mumbai Terror

"The earliest reports, presumably relayed from the police via the media, said that Karkare had been killed at the Taj, and Salaskar and Kamte at Metro...

"Later we were given two accounts of the killings where the venue was shifted to a deserted lane without cameras or eye-witnesses...

"A careful scrutiny of all the reports available so far suggests, to this writer anyway, that the killing of Karkare was a premeditated act executed by his self-proclaimed enemies, some of whom had prior intelligence of the attack on the hotels and planned their own attack to coincide with it.

"The operation in Cama, in particular, seems to have had the sole objective of luring Karkare into the lane where he was later reportedly killed."

Lt Colonel Srikant Purohit, from Indian military intelligence, was reportedly involved in organising several terrorist blasts.

According to Raveena Hansa:

"Hemant Karkare was engaged in unearthing a terror network with characteristics which had not been seen so far.

"The investigation started by tracing the motorcycle used to plant bombs in Malegaon in September 2008 to a Hindu Sadhvi, Pragyasingh Thakur; it later uncovered a cellphone conversation between her and Ramji, the man who planted the bombs, in which she asked why more people had not been killed.

"For the first time, the Indian state was conducting a thorough professional probe into a terror network centred on Hindu extremist organisations, this one with huge ramifications, some leading into military and bomb-making training camps and politicised elements in the army, others into organisations and political leaders affiliated to the BJP.

"One of the most potentially explosive discoveries was that a serving military intelligence officer, Lt.Col. Srikant Purohit, had procured 60 kg of RDX from government supplies for use in the terrorist attack on the Samjhauta Express (the India-Pakistan ''Understanding' train) in February 2007, in which 68 people were killed, the majority of them Pakistanis.

"Initially, militants of Lashkar-e-Taiba and other Islamist terror groups had been accused of carrying out the attack, but no evidence against them had been found."

Reportedly, Ajmal Kasab and 200 other young Pakistanis, after having been kidnapped by the Indian Security Service (RAW), had been under training in Indian Security Service safe houses for use in 'terrorist' attacks. (Ajmal Kasab kidnapped from Nepal before 2006: lawyer - Sulekha.com ... )

On 15 April 2009, The Times had this headline: The Pakistan link: Mumbai terror detective tells of world plot

It was Rakesh Maria who interviewed Azam Amir Kasab, 21, allegedly the sole Mumbai gunman to be taken alive

Kasab is now on trial.

“In those first moments he was in our custody, I had just four questions,” Mr Maria told The Times. “How many terrorists? How well armed? What were their plans? How did they get here?”

...The police chief quickly got his answers: 10 terrorists armed with AK56 automatic rifles (the Chinese version of the AK47), pistols, grenades and other explosives had arrived by sea from Pakistan, Mr Kasab told Mr Maria...

His investigation... is enormously ambitious in its reach and many onlookers believe it has one over-riding aim: the establishment of Pakistani state involvement in the Mumbai attacks.

(The Pakistan link: Mumbai terror detective tells of world plot)

On 15 April 2009, we read: Mumbai attacks trial in disarray as lawyer sacked

The judge has sacked Kasab's defence lawyer because the lawyer has links to a potential prosecution witness.

So, Kasab has no legal representation.

During the trial, Kasab appears "unable to follow the proceedings."

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The Mumbai Attacks and the Militaries of the USA, India and Pak ...

aangirfan: FBI : Ajmal Kasab has no links to Pakistan

Mumbai gunman Ajmal has been held by the Indian authorities since before 2006 - lawyer

POLICE STORY ON MUMBAI ATTACKS STANDS SHATTERED

Mumbai Attackers were 'Hindus' and 'White Men'

aangirfan: MUMBAI AND DAWOOD

Terrorism: CIA attacks Bombay? CIA wants India to help it break up ...

BRUCE REIDEL, DAWOOD IBRAHIM and the BOMBAY ATTACKS

Friday, April 10, 2009

Mehsud of the CIA?

Mehsud, who will be used by the CIA to get US troops into Pakistan?

Baithullah Mehsud, a 'deceased' tribal leader in Pakistan, may have links to the CIA. (Winter Patriot: Is Pakistan's "Public Enemy Number One" A CIA Asset ?. )

Pakistani officials have complained that the US has failed to hit Mehsud with drone attacks despite them having supplied co-ordinates three times. (BBC NEWS South Asia Profile: Baitullah Mehsud )

CNN and other media sources reported the death of Baithullah Mehsud, on 30 September 2008.

His death was reportedly due to kidney failure.[33] (Sources: Man blamed for Bhutto killing is dead - CNN.com)

Mehsud of the CIA?

The Daily Mail (UK) reported on 31 March 2009 that Mehsud is now promising an attack on Washington:

The Taliban promises an attack on Washington that will 'amaze' the world ...

Mehsud, 'the top Taliban commander in Pakistan' has reportedly claimed responsibility for an attack on a police academy in Pakistan that left 18 dead.

"And Baitullah Mehsud also promised an assault on Washington 'soon' - one he said will 'amaze' the world."

'Mastermind' of Lahore massacre captured alive

OBAMA'S BREAK UP OF PAKISTAN

Kilcullen, a US terror expert and former Australian soldier, thinks Pakistan could collapse within six months.

1. Hugo Chavez once said, "The U.S. disposes of its allies like used condoms."

(quote from mostaqueali.blogspot.com/)

The US government appears to be involved in a campaign to break up Pakistan.

(PAKISTAN TO BE BROKEN UP?)

Pakistan has flirted with China.

The Military Industrial Complex feels it needs wars to ensure its survival.

(Pakistan and China versus Mossad, CIA, RAW and MI6)

The USA can call upon its friends, such as Saudi Arabia, to help break up Pakistan?

(Pakistan, Cricket, Mossad, Saudi Arabia, CIA)

Pakistan

2. Part of the US campaign appears to involve propaganda, such as presenting Pakistanis as barbarians.

A top government official of Pakistan's Taliban-controlled Swat region has made the claim that the amateur video clip shown by television channels of a 17-year-old girl being flogged was fabricated. - Swat girl flogging video fake, official says

3. Part of the US campaign appears to involve false flag acts of terror, to destabilise Pakistan.

The US campaign seems to aim to set Punjabis against Pashtuns.

On 7 April 2009, a news report from the USA announced that "Pakistan could collapse within six months: US expert." - Pakistan could collapse within six months: report

The US expert is David Kilcullen.

David Kilcullen was a terrorism adviser to General David Petraeus in Iraq.

In Iraq, much of the 'terrorism' was allegedly the work of the USA, and was allegedly aimed at weakening and dividing opposition to US colonialism.

Kilcullen is now advising Petraeus in Afghanistan.

Many Pakistanis do not believe in the idea of al Qaeda being an Islamic group. Some see it as a CIA institution.

Osama stayed in an American hospital just before 9 11.

According to the New York Times, large parts of the Pakistani elite have rebuffed the idea of an urgent the threat from al-Qaida and the Taliban.

Many Pakistanis have decided that reaching an accommodation with the militants is preferable to fighting them.

Some, including mid-ranking soldiers, choose to see the militants not as the enemy, but as fellow Muslims who are deserving of greater sympathy than are the American aims, according to the New York Times.

4. Pakistan is in a weak position because, allegedly, Pakistan's 'corrupt' President Zardari takes orders from the 'Jewish' Richard Holbrooke. (Holbrooke is one of the bad guys.)

And, allegedly, many of the top people in the Pakistan military and government are assets of the CIA. (The Mumbai Attacks and the Militaries of the USA, India and Pakistan)

(PAKISTAN'S SPOOKY REHMAN MALIK)

5. What is the CIA-Pentagon plan?

The Lahore Museum was built in 1894. Rudyard Kipling's father was one of the famous curators of the museum. Source http://flickr.com/photos/o_0/19039605/


On 3 December 2008, the bipartisan Commission on the Prevention of Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation and Terrorism reported that:

If there was a WMD attack on the United States, it would originate in Pakistan.

(WMD attack to originate in Pakistan: US report)

Acording to the report:

“Were one to map terrorism and weapons of mass destruction today, all roads would intersect in Pakistan."

The commission briefed President Bush and Vice President-elect Joe Biden, senior congressional leaders on 3 December 2008 and warned them “it is more likely than not that a weapon of mass destruction will be used in a terrorist attack somewhere in the world by the end of 2013”.

Allegedly, the CIA is preparing the world for a possible US attack on Pakistan by, allegedly, carrying out the following actions:

1. The assassination of Benazir Bhutto in December 2007

Accusations that the CIA murdered Benazir Bhutto

The shooting of Benazir Bhutto

The death of Bhutto; Mossad and the CIA.

2. The toppling of Musharraf in August 2008

Musharraf toppled by CIA?

3. The attack against the Islamabad Marriott in September 2008

And various other Gladio-style terror attacks within Pakistan

Marriot Blast, Mossad and the CIA

Pakistan government and CIA behind Marriott blast?

4. The Mumbai Attacks of November 2008

The US commission report, of 3 December 2008 (WMD attack to originate in Pakistan: US report), noted that in October 2008, China agreed to build two nuclear power plants in Pakistan.

Pakistan by Steve Evans


“This deal — especially if it does not contain mechanisms to prevent nuclear material from being transferred from the new civilian plants to military facilities — signals a nascent nuclear arms race in Asia,” the commission warned.

“The risk of a WMD attack being planned and executed from Pakistan’s northwest frontier area is growing, as that area continues to function as a safe haven for Al Qaeda.”

Picture of a british family's first car in Karachi on Elphinstone St., Karachi, Sind, Pakistan. From http://www.historickarachi.com/1910's.htm

On 4 January 2009, John Berlin wrote:

Why the US Wants the Collapse of Pakistan (UNObserver & International Report)

Excerpts:

1. There are secret US military bases with troop levels totalling, at present, a few thousand - and Punjab isn’t the only region that has US combat troops present.

2. Traditional mainstream media are being fed stories that underline the “need” for US intervention.

3. Scenarios are already being floated to carve up Pakistan into “Greater Baluchistan” (which is now Pakistan’s largest province) and some other new “states” in which to install puppet regimes.

4. The weakening or even collapse of the state of Pakistan will create a new battlefield badly needed by the White House.

The “War on Terror” (as the War on Islam is often termed), like most wars, needs expansion or it collapses.


6. The US government has apparently been deeply involved in a number of recent violent events in Palistan.

The overthrow of Pakistan presidents by the CIA

BRUCE REIDEL, DAWOOD IBRAHIM and the BOMBAY ATTACKS

Mumbai Attackers were 'Hindus' and 'White Men'

CIA ATTACKS BOMBAY? CIA WANTS INDIA TO HELP IN ATTACK ON PAKISTAN?
Rashid Rauf linked to Bombay Attacks

US and UK links to the terrorists in India and Pakistan

Anglo-American-Israeli plans for Pakistan and beyond

Mumbai and the Anglo-American-Mossad-RSS Nexus

An India-Pakistan war could be like the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s

Mumbai gunman Ajmal has been held by the Indian authorities since before 2006 - lawyer


FBI : Ajmal Kasab has no links to Pakistan

The lies about the captured Mumbai 'gunman' Ajmal Amir.

Mumbai, the Hoax Phone Call, La Belle Disco

Mumbai, Shiv Sena and Mir Jafar

Mumbai and the Hindu Fascists who appear to run India

Is Pakistan to Blame?

MUMBAI ATTACKS AND THE SECURITY SERVICES

MUMBAI AND GLADIO

List of victims of the November 2008 Mumbai attacks.

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DOES THE USA CONTROL THE TOP PEOPLE IN PAKISTAN?

In August 2008, Pakistan spy chief Pasha, on the right, meets Admiral Mullen, on the left. Reportedly, Pasha is closely allied to General Kayani and the CIA. Reportedly, he holds anti-Taliban views. [7][5] Pakistan military boss Kayani appears next to Pasha.

According to a report by Stratfor, in early April 2009, Pakistan's spy chief, Lt Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha, refused to meet Admiral Mullen and Richard Holbrooke, when they recently visited Islamabad. - ISI chief Pasha snubs Holbrooke and Mullen / Holbrooke's trip exposes standoff between US, Pakistan

However, State Department spokesman Robert Wood told reporters that Special Envoy Richard Holbrooke and American military commander Admiral Mike Mullen did have a meeting with ISI Chief Ahmed Shuja Pasha. Holbrooke and Mullen met ISI chief Pasha: US :: Samay Live

Apparently, Pasha did not meet Holbrooke alone; but he did meet Holbrooke.

In other words, Pasha wants to give the appearance of not being a Washington puppet.

AHMED QURAISHI, on 8 April 2009, at ahmedquraishi.com/ wrote an article entitled: Pakistan To America: Back Off

Among the points made:

1. Reportedly, elements of the Pakistan government, have recently become less trusting of the USA. (Holbrooke's trip exposes standoff between US, Pakistan)

Reportedly, the Pakistan government has stated that it will not allow the United States to expand its war inside Pakistan; it will not allow U.S. soldiers to operate in Pakistan; and it insists that the CIA must stop its drone attacks.

Reportedly a former Pakistani air force chief, Air Chief Marshal (retired) Kaleem Saadat, has announced that the Pakistani Air Force is ready to shoot down the CIA's drones.

pakalert.wordpress.com/.../

2. At a press briefing in Islamabad, Richard Holbrooke, America’s envoy to Pakistan and Afghanistan, and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, appeared surprised at the 'straightforward' talk by Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi.

3. In early April 2009, the leader of the main opposition party in Pakistan, Chaudhry Pervez Elahi of PML, told a press conference that his party favored rejecting U.S. aid if the trade off is to give up Pakistan’s national interest.

4. "Pakistani officials are seriously concerned about mounting circumstantial evidence indicating the U.S. is ... using Afghanistan ... as a base for spreading terrorism and mayhem inside ...Pakistan.

"The suspicions are especially centered on evidence that someone in Afghanistan is pumping trained operatives and saboteurs in the garb of Islamic militants inside Pakistan. These operatives and agents then go about spreading death and destruction in the name of ‘Pakistani Taliban’.

"There are also serious questions about why the CIA drones fail to attack shadowy militant leaders inside Pakistani tribal zone whose main mission is to attack and kill Pakistanis.

"In comparison, the Afghan Taliban in Afghanistan focus on fighting the occupation forces and have never advocated attacking Pakistani interests despite Islamabad having ditched them seven years ago."




5. "There is even more evidence that Afghan soil is also being used to spread ethnic and sectarian tensions inside Pakistan and recruit, train and sponsor separatists for this purpose."

In Afghanistan, there is a "huge presence of Indian intelligence ... disguised as diplomats and social workers."

6. Pakistan's "former Chief of Army Staff Gen. Mirza Aslam Baig wrote a paper as far back as 2007 that listed locations inside Afghanistan where U.S. or some of its allies have established intelligence outposts focused on penetrating four nations that share borders with or are close to Afghanistan. These four nations are Russia, China, Iran and Pakistan."

7. In November 2007, commentator Ahmed Quraishi "authored a report that said that the next logical step for the severe destabilization seen in Pakistan that year would be a high-value assassination of either President Musharraf or Benazir Bhutto, the two key leaders in Pakistan at the time, which would spin Pakistan out of control."

8. "There have been reports for some time now that certain departments within the U.S. government have been conducting ‘private foreign policies’ directly with the families that control Pakistani political parties. Some of the leaders of these families were invited to secret visits to Washington as part of this confidential dialogue."

9. "Holbrooke, would come to Pakistan "to meet the Pakistani President, Prime Minister, Army chief, ISI chief, and whoever else mattered, and all of them separately, and then play one party against the other, a sort of an improvement on the old British method of divide and rule.

"Another sign of manipulation is the Zardari-Nawaz rivalry."

Pakistan To America: Back Off © 2007-2009. All rights reserved. AhmedQuraishi.com & PakNationalists

Gordon Brown, who allegedly works for the CIA, may be helping the USA against Pakistan.

The UK government appears to be trying to help the USA in its 'plot' against Pakistan.

'UK Bomb plot' a complete hoax?


Saddam and his generals reportedly worked for the CIA. Image from: dailymail./Son-Saddam-Husseins-general-living-Britain.l

Will the Pakistan military protect Pakistan, or are the key players working for the CIA?

Mostaque Ali (So Whats the next step for Pakistan? ) writes:

"The Drones are being fired from Pakistani military bases and thus requires the permission and cooperation of the Pakistani military first and foremost.

"The Pakistani military are fighting side by side in terms of policy with the Americans in FATA attacking Pakistani civilians in FATA.

"The civilian leadership don't have a say in this..."

Mostaque Ali (So Whats the next step for Pakistan? ) continues:

"Do remember that the head of the Iraqi Mukabarat under Saddam was working for America, in 2003, as were most of Saddam's generals.

"This is why the Iraqi military of 400,000, one of the best in the world no doubt stood down when the Americans came to 'liberate' their country...

"Now what if the Pakistan military stand down in the face of an American invasion?

"10 meetings between Mullen and Kiyani in just over a year...

"How can you be sure that the Pakistani military top brass, trained in the USA mainly, is totally loyal to Pakistan? Present indications are not encouraging..."

Pakistan's president "Zardari is using his public position to make business deals to enrich himself and thus visit various countries, and thats about it..."

Zardari has spent time in jail.

Formerly, "Zardari after being released went to live in Jew York in 2004.

"Benazir also spent an inordinate amount of time in the USA in the late 1990's and there after, giving speeches to the CFR etc.

"Sharif mainly shuttled between the Gulf and Saudi Arabia which is a country that has significant influence in Pakistan, but not overt like the Americans the Saudis don't operate that way, and of course LONDON, no less influential in Pakistani politics. And of course Sharifs visit to the American embassy more recently."

So Whats the next step for Pakistan?

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