Sunday, December 21, 2008


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In June 1995, the UK parliament heard that the timing device alleged to have been used in the Lockerbie bomb was probably planted by the CIA.

In June 1995, Member of Parliament Tam Dalyell declared in the British parliament: "I have been driven to the conclusion that the device was a CIA plant." (Lockerbie evidence 'planted by CIA' Independent.)

The Mail on Sunday, 21 December 2008, had a story entitled Lockerbie Bombing Evidence 'Planted'

(This story does not seem to appear in full on the Mail on Sunday website - New forensic evidence could free Libyan convicted of Lockerbie ...)

According to The mail on Sunday:

"New forensic analysis on a fragment of the timing device alleged to have triggered the bomb that brought down Pan Am jet 103 on December 21, 1988, is said to have found no trace of explosive residue...

"A source close to the investigation said: ‘The only piece of forensic evidence in the chain that pointed to Libyan guilt has never been near the seat of an explosion.’...

"'The new tests, the first carried out independently, reveal no explosive residue...

"'Tests carried out replicating the explosion have proved the circuit board would have been completely vaporised...

"It has long been suspected of being a plant - and it is a plant."

Libyan Al-Megrahi, who was reportedly framed, was supposed to have bought an umbrella from Maltese shopkeeper Tony Gauci.

DNA has now been extracted from the umbrella and the DNA does not match Megrahi.

Professor Robert Black (, the leading expert on Lockerbie, fears that Megrahi's appeal case may be being deliberately delayed, in the hope that Megrahi will abandon the appeal in return for the chance to be with his family during his final months.

In 1988, the FBI's Robert Mueller (above) supervised the Lockerbie Bombing investigation.

"He successfully kept the CIA's connection to the bombing from becoming public.

"The CIA and FBI took control of the crash scene for the first day (keeping Scottish police at bay), searching through and removing numerous pieces of evidence and luggage from the wreckage to obscure the connections of the bombing to the CIA special team that was on board the aircraft.

"One CIA defector has said that the team had been returning to the states against orders to blow the whistle on CIA drug and terrorist connections in the Middle East." - FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ·

Edward Bollier of MEBO

In the Lockerbie Bombing (PanAm 103) case, it appears that the CIA and its friends arranged to have a 'timer' stolen from the Swiss firm of MEBO.

It appears that the security services then pretended that this 'timer' was the one used in the Lockerbie Bombing.

The Herald letters column, 23 August 2008, has a letter about the PanAm 103 - Lockerbie Bombing entitled High Court decision rapid and welcome

The author of the letter writes:

"Probably the most crucial item of physical evidence, namely the timer fragment PT35B, was not even tested for explosive residues."

Some of the comments on the Herald website are as follows:

Posted by: Edwin & Mahnaz Bollier, MEBO, Zurich

"MEBO LTD and myself have obviously been misused by the Scottish Justice and Lord Advocate Colin Boyd to construct a wrong link from Lockerbie to Libya... More news on our webpage: (Homepage &

"Edwin and Mahnaz Bollier, MEBO Ltd. give the Crown, Lord Advocate General and the Appeal Court, the full warranty that the manipulated MST-13 timer fragment (PT-35B) does not come from a timer supplied to Libya and therefore cannot be brought in connection with Libya...

"Libya did pay the compensation under explicit objection that Libya had absolutely nothing to do with the PanAm 103 Lockerbie-Tragedy and could therefore not be made responsible. In the world media this objection is never mentioned.

"This tricky suppression of the whole statement by the world's leading news agencies leads to the generally accepted but nevertheless totally wrong notion: If they paid, they did it.

"Why Libya pays?: > Regain full diplomatic and economic status. This would allow oil companies to negotiate hundreds of billions of dollars worth of contracts, to drill the state's oilfields.

"US President Bush signed on August 4, 2008 into law: S.3370, the 'Libyan Claims Resolution Act.' The bill that grants Libyan immunity law and full diplomatic and economic status."

Lockerbie from

Posted by: Mark Boyle, Johnstone

"Jeez Edwin & Mahnaz Bollier, you'll find few in Scotland that don't know that al Megrahi was just the fall guy (the main reason for the Yanks wanting him jailed was his expertise as Libya's No 1 sanction buster via Malta)."

Posted by: Peter Biddulph, Worcestershire, England

"Few folks will be aware of two important background features of the Lockerbie investigation and trial. Both are verified by historical and declassified documents and available for easy reference.

"1. The forensic scientist who claimed to be the first to find the famous bomb fragment was, a year after finding it, revealed by a Parliamentary investigation by Sir John May to be a co-conspirator with two colleagues in the with-holding of evidence in the trial of the alleged IRA Maguire Seven.

"The Maguires were released on appeal.

"This aspect was under-investigated by the Lockerbie trial defence, and ignored by the judges in the Lockerbie judgment.

"2. The career of the American agent in overall charge of the investigation includes several years involvement with the murderous Nicaraguan campaign, working alongside Colonel Oliver North in the Iran-Contra affair of the mid-eighties, and the covert arming of the Afghanistan Mujahadeen in the late eighties.

"The man was not called to give evidence at the Lockerbie trial.

"In an on-camera interview, he admitted that his name was on the original list of witnesses, but he presumed that the US authorities had removed it.

"We shall have to wait and see whether these two aspects will fully emerge during a second appeal.

Timer device

Two years after the Lockerbie bomb, investigators allegedly found a fragment of a timer device.

It has been alleged that the evidence concerning the timer fragment was fabricated by the CIA and its friends in order to implicate Libya in the bombing.

In the summer of 2007, a report from Darik Radio DARIK News revealed a confession:

"Ulrich Lumpert, a Swiss electronic engineer and former employee at the Zurich-based MEBO Ltd Telecommunication, has admitted that he stole from the company a hand manufactured MST-13 Timer PC-Board that was later used as evidence against the defendant, Libyan agent Abdel Basset al-Megrahi.

Lumpert says: "I realized that the MST-13 PC-board, after it was handed over by me without permission was misused for deliberate politically criminal 'action'." - Lockerbie Bombing Trial Faces U-Turn after Perjury Confession

Thomas Thurman

On 19 February 2006, The Mail on Sunday reported that new forensic tests have been carried out by the lawyers representing Al Megrahi, the Libyan jailed in connection with the Lockerbie bombing.

Defence experts simulated the Lockerbie explosion. The results showed that the device which detonated the bomb could not have survived the explosion.

According to The Mail on Sunday: "Sources close to Megrahi's lawyers said the new tests pointed to the evidence having been planted at the scene of the crash...

"The source added that Megrahi's legal team claimed they had obtained 'clear proof' that investigators had 'planted and manipulated' evidence...

"He said... if there is any justice in Scotland... certain Scottish police officers will be jailed for their part in the proceedings...

"Megrahi's lawyers already have a sworn statement from a retired Scottish police officer confirming that evidence had been planted to secure the Libyan's conviction.

"A similar claim was made by a former CIA agent...

"The ex-CIA man (claimed) that the fragment of circuit board had been planted under orders from a very high level in the organisation...

"The fragment was found by two policeman during a search of a wood near Newcastleton, 35 miles from Lockerbie.

"It was later identified by the CIA's Thomas Thurman as being part of a sophisticated timer device made by the Swiss firm of Mebo.

"Thurman was later unmasked as a fraud who had given false evidence in American murder trials..."


Who were the people involved in the Lockerbie investigation and trial?

John Orr, joint head of CID in Strathclyde police, was the chief investigating officer in the Lockerbie case. Sir John Orr got promoted to Chief Constable of Strathclyde Police (1995 to 2001). (The Herald : News: OTHER NEWS)

'The Golfer' is the former Scottish police chief who has given lawyers a signed statement claiming that key evidence in the Lockerbie bombing trial was fabricated. 'The retired officer - of assistant chief constable rank or higher - has testified that the CIA planted the tiny fragment of circuit board crucial in convicting a Libyan for the 1989 mass murder of 270 people.' ( News - Police chief- Lockerbie evidence was faked)

Two state prosecutors from the US Department of Justice played an important role in the Lockerbie trial. The United Nations observer at the Lockerbie trial, Dr Hans Kochler, reported that two state prosecutors from the US Department of Justice were in court, and, although not listed in any of the official documents about the Court's officers, they were constantly briefing Scottish prosecutors. ( UN Claims Lockerbie Trial Was Rigged)

Lord Fraser was the lord advocate (1989-92) who initiated the case against Megrahi. On 20 December 2006 Lord Fraser was detained by police after they were called to Dundee Airport following reports of a disturbance on board an aircraft. Lord Fraser was charged with disorderly conduct. It was announced on 2 February 2007 that the Crown Office had dropped these charges due to insufficient evidence that an offence had been committed.

Lord Hardie, as Lord Advocate 1997-2000, was due to lead the prosecution team in the Lockerbie trial. Lord Hardie resigned just before the Lockerbie trial began. There were rumours that there was a lack of evidence to convict the Libyans.

Colin Boyd was Lord Hardie's successor as Lord Advocate. He became Lord Boyd of Duncansby.

Norman McFadyen, then regional procurator-fiscal for Edinburgh, headed the Crown Office trial team at Camp Zeist in the Netherlands. He got promoted to Crown Agent, head of department for the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service.

Alan Turnbull, QC, was one of the two senior counsel leading the Crown team in the Lockerbie trial. In 2006, he became Scotland's youngest judge at the age of 47.

Advocate-depute Alastair Campbell, QC, was senior prosecution counsel in the Lockerbie trial. In 2003, he was appointed a judge and became Lord Bracadale.

Bill Taylor, QC, was defence counsel for Megrahi at Camp Zeist. He has been heavily criticised for failing to defend Megrahi successfully. ( We have removed an error here pointed out to us by The Lockerbie Case )

Alistair Duff was the defence lawyer for Megrahi.

Professor Hans Koechler, the United Nations' observer at the Lockerbie trial and appeal, has accused Mr Taylor and Mr Duff of betraying Megrahi by failing to represent him properly.

Eddie MacKechnie was solicitor to Fhimah who was acquitted.

Tony Gauci was the key crown witness and owner of the Maltese shop where Megrahi was said to have bought the clothing reportedly placed around the bomb. At the trial, Tony Gauci was uncertain about the date he sold the clothes in question, and was not sure that it was Megrahi to whom they were sold. Gauci gave two earlier statements in which he identified convicted Egyptian terrorist Abu Talb as the person who bought clothing. Gauci gave earlier statements saying he did not sell a shirt to the man but six months later remembered selling shirts and the man. Two of Gauci's statements are missing. A babygro said to have been wrapped around the bomb and shown to the court blown to pieces was recovered intact, according to a statement from the woman who found it. Five years after the trial, Lord Fraser allegedly described Gauci as a “simple” man who might have been “easily led”. Lord Fraser was the lord advocate (1989-92) who initiated the case against Megrahi.

The Strathclyde police reportedly arranged for Gauci to go fishing, hillwalking and birdwatching in the Scottish Highlands. The Mail on Sunday newspaper said Gauci had been recorded on tape talking about five or six visits he had made to Scotland since 1988. Four members of Gauci's family are also said to have received some form of police hospitality during the investigation. (The Scotsman - Scotland - Lockerbie trial row over witness’s trip)

J Thomas Thurman was the FBI man who identified a fragment of a circuit board from a timing device which, he said, was from the Lockerbie bomb. Thurman was later removed from his FBI job after a US Department of Justice investigation concluded his FBI forensics lab had a record of fabricating evidence.

Edwin Bollier is head of the Swiss-based Mebo group which was supposed to have sold the timing device reportedly used in the Lockerbie bomb. Bollier claims that one of his employees supplied the Scottish police with a stolen timing device, which was then presented in the trial as having been found amidst the plane's wreckage.

Ulrich Lumpert is the Mebo employee who reportedly has now admitted that the device he handed over to Scottish investigators was one he himself had stolen from the company, rather than part of a batch delivered to Libya in the 1980s.

Lord Sutherland was the presiding judge at Camp Zeist.

The other two judges were Lord Coulsfield and Lord MacLean.

Lord Cullen was head of the five-judge panel which presided over the appeal of Megrahi at Camp Zeist in 2002. The other four judges were: Lord Kirkwood, Lord Osborne, Lord Macfadyen, and Lord Nimmo Smith.


"SCOTLAND'S former top law officer, Lord Fraser of Carmyllie, has denied he was drunk when arrested after an incident on board a flight." - travel - Lord Peter Fraser of Carmyllie

"Lord Fraser of Carmyllie ... speaking on the eve of today's 20th anniversary of the terrorist atrocity that claimed 270 lives ... defended the Scottish justice system and insisted Megrahi's conviction was safe. Fraser was Lord Advocate in 1991 when he drew up the indictment against Megrahi, accusing him of carrying out the atrocity." - Megrahi campaigners criticised as Lockerbie marks 20th anniversary

New forensic evidence could free Libyan convicted of Lockerbie bombing

The CIA and the Lockerbie Bomb

According to The Sunday Times of October 23, 2005, Lord Fraser criticised the Maltese shopkeeper, who sold Megrahi the clothing that was used to pack the bomb suitcase, for inter alia being "not quite the full shilling" and "an apple short of a picnic". Peter Fraser, Baron Fraser of Carmyllie - Wikipedia, the free ...

Tuesday, December 16, 2008

Glasgow and London car bomb plots

An off duty policeman sprays water on Kafeel Ahmed at Glasgow Airport.

Some people might suspect that the London and Glasgow car bomb plots were the work of the security services and that one of the three suspected of involvement might have been a double agent.

The three main suspects were Mohammed Asha, Bilal Abdulla and Kafeel Ahmed.

Indian doctor Sabeel Ahmed, brother of Kafeel Ahmed, appeared in court in London charged with withholding information on terrorism. He was deported to India in 2008.

Australian police accused Ahmed's 'cousin', fellow Indian doctor Mohammed Haneef, 27, of providing "reckless" support to a terrorist organisation.

Which one might have been working for the security services as an agent provocateur?

Mohammed Asha

1. Dr Mohammed Asha

"It is believed alleged ringleader Mohammed Asha ... was sent to Britain ... as part of Al-Qaeda's long-term plan to bring terror to the UK."

(Ringleader 'Al-Qaeda sleeper'", 2007-07-04)

In December 2008, a court cleared Asha of involvement in the Glasgow and London car bomb plots.

Asha was friends with Bilal Abdulla and Kafeel Ahmed.

Asha was accused of providing money and offering advice to Abdulla and Ahmed but a court found him not guilty of involvement in the plots.

Asha's Palestinian parents lived in Jordan and Asha attended the Jubilee School for gifted children whose patron was the Queen of Jordan.

When Queen Noor visited the Jubilee School in Amman, Mohammed Asha was the choice to meet and greet King Hussein’s fourth wife.

Asha studied medicine in Cambridge.

In 2005, he met Abdulla. (Profile: Jordanian neurologist, Mohammed Asha, cleared over ... )

Bilal Abdullah arrested at Glasgow Airport

2. Bilal Abdullah

Abdulla, an Iraqi born in the UK, was arrested after the 2007 Glasgow Airport attack.

Dr. Abdullah, and engineer Kafeel Ahmed, were observed to be involved in the attack.

Abdulla was brought up in what he described as a 'very posh' suburb of Baghdad.

He also received education in the UK.

At one point he considered joining the British army.

His family was friendly with a number of politicians associated with Saddam Hussein's regime.

Reportedly, he was deeply upset by the deaths of many friends in Iraq.

Despite what friends from Cambridge suggested, Abdulla said that it was Kafeel Ahmed who came up with the plan to attack London and Glasgow, and Ahmed who was in charge. (Glasgow bomb plot: Profile of airport terrorist Bilal Abdulla )

Abdulla admitted that he was a terrorist but claimed he never intended to injure or kill innocent people and that the decision by Kaffeel Ahmed to attack Glasgow airport had taken him by surprise. (Doctor's account of Glasgow airport attack 'simply absurd' UK ...)

Kafeel Ahmed at Glasgow Airport.

Kafeel Ahmed

3. Kafeel Ahmed

Ahmed, after the attack on Glasgow Airport, reportedly died in hospital from third degree burns on 2 August 2007.

Reportedly, Ahmed was a fan of Osama bin Laden, who is suspected of being an agent of the CIA. (Bin Laden speeches found in Kafeel Ahmed’s house in Bangalore =

Ahmed, a Moslem, was born in Banglaore, India.

He worked in India, Iran and in Saudi Arabia, where they stayed for 11 years, and in Belfast and then Cambridge.

His degree was in mechanical engineering.

He worked at Infotech Enterprises in Bangalore from December 2005 to August 2006.

Mohammad Asha has been found not guilty of taking part in the London and Glasgow car bombs plot.

The judge in the trial criticised counter-terrorism police after it emerged that cleared suspect Mohammad Asha was interviewed twice without a solicitor following his arrest.

The Court heard how the Jordanian doctor was subjected to long interviews without a lawyer, despite asking for legal help as soon as he arrived at Paddington Green police station.

The jury in his trial heard claims that Dr Asha's treatment was "unfair and unjust" and that interviewing officers had lied to him and resorted to bullying.

Neurologist Dr Asha, whose defence was supported by NHS colleagues, was acquitted of two counts of conspiracy.

Cleared terror suspect 'bullied'

Glasgow Airport 2007

1. On 30 June 2007, there was a 'terror' attack at Glasgow Airport, in the UK.

Some of those involved in the plot may have been double agents and some may have been patsies.

2. How might a terror attack be arranged?

"A group is infiltrated and radicalized by a government informant and provocateured into attempting terror attacks."


Who, reportedly, organises the terror attacks?

"Starting from at least the 1980's, SAS and British military intelligence agents were routinely ordered to embed themselves within violent branches of the IRA and aid terrorists in carrying out attacks.

"How do we know this happened? Because one of the individuals who was ordered to do so, Kevin Fulton, blew the whistle on the fact that he was told he had the Prime Minister's blessing to aid terrorists in bomb making and political assassinations."



3. The Glasgow Airport Attack 2007 - links to the security services

A. Dr Bilal Abdulla, 29, allegedly took part in the Glasgow Airport attack.

Bilal Abdulla reportedly left a will addressed to Osama bin Laden, who is widely believed to have been an agent or asset of the CIA. (Bomb accused 'left bin Laden will')

Educated doctors would be expected to know of the close links betwen the Bush and bin Laden families and of Osama's reported stay at an American hospital just before 9 11.

(aangirfan: Bush, Bin Laden, Drugs.... / aangirfan: The bin Laden Family)

During his time in Cambridge Bilal Abdulla was reportedly linked to the radical Muslim group Hizb ut-Tahir (Cached), which is linked to the Muslim Brotherhood (Cached), which reportedly is run by the CIA and MI6. (aangirfan: The use of the Muslim Brotherhood by MI6 and the CIA in ... )

Cambridge has an MI5 HQ

B. People who have links to Cambridge include: 1. Alleged 'terrorists' Bilal Abdulla, Mohammed Asha and Kafeel Ahmed 2. airport worker 'hero' John Smeaton and 3. MI5

"Bilal Abdulla is believed to have known suspect Mohammed Asha, when Asha worked at Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge, where Abdulla has relatives.

"Abdulla visited Cambridge as recently as three weeks ago, and was there regularly to visit an uncle and his grandmother, said a cafe owner who once rented Abdulla an apartment in the eastern city." (British Look for Links in Failed Plot)

"An innocent looking semi-detached property in the University city of Cambridge from where an Islamic charity dedicated to peace and inter-faith friendship operated might have housed the London and Glasgow bomb plot accused, media reports said today.

"The links between Bilal Abdullah, the Iraqi doctor, Kafeel Ahmed, Indian engineer and others arrested in connection with the alleged plot came as shock to the unsuspecting congregation..." ("Charity in Cambridge might have housed bomb plot accused")

At a mapping site we read: "What is not shown – several examples were suggested of installations which the Soviets must have known about which are not identified on the maps (eg MI5 HQ, Cambridge RSG). "
Soviet Military Mapping of Britain

The Glasgow Airport attack has brought forth a number of names of people who are linked to Cambridgeshire, where MI5 has a major base.

Airport worker John Smeaton said the man shouted, "Allah, Allah" 'I FLOORED JEEP BOMBER'

"John himself has been elusive since the attacks — until the News of the World tracked him down to a pub in rural Cambridgeshire... John headed south to Cambridge with his parents Catherine, 68, and Iain, 66, for a cousin's wedding, and has enjoyed the opportunity to lay low." Read

Royal Marine

C. A British marine just happened to be living opposite a house used by the Glasgow Airport attackers. (BBC NEWS Appeal over Jeep used in attack)

From 'This is London' - :

The Glasgow attack was linked to a semi-detached house in the quiet commuter village of Houston, Renfrewshire, just outside Glasgow:

"A neighbour who lives opposite the home said the two men, both under 30, were renting the property...

The 25-year-old Royal Marine added: "One thing that was odd about them was that they always drove different cars. I have seen a light coloured Mercedes standing in the drive, a silver Peugeot, as well as a silver Astra...

D. According to The Daily Mail ('Terror ringleader' is brilliant NHS doctor Mail Online )

"There were claims in the U.S. that one of the suspects had been arrested before by British police investigating another terror plot...

"U.S. officials say the image of a man seen running from the Mercedes near the Tiger Tiger club early on Friday 'resembled' a suspect arrested previously in connection with the investigation into so-called Al Qaeda 'General' Dhiren Barot.

"He is said to have been released because of lack of evidence."


E. Alex McIlveen was the person who tackled 'terrorist' Kafeel Ahmed during the 'terror' attack.
In the Scottish Sunday Express, 16 March 2008, Alex McIlveen states: "at no point did John Smeaton attempt to tackle the bombers... He is a fake."

Stephen Clarkson, who also tackled the 'terrorists', "confirmed that he did not see Smeaton tackle the bombers."

CCTV footage of the 'terror attack', shown on Youtube, appears not to show Smeaton tackling the 'terrorists'.

It was John Smeaton who gave the media the quotes that they wanted, quotes that sounded as if they had been scripted by the security services.

Smeaton was awarded the Queen's Gallantry medal. Smeaton received a CNN Every Day Superhero Award. Smeaton was flown to New York for the sixth anniversary of the 9 11 attacks. Smeaton appeared on TV talk shows. (TERROR PALS ‘SET ABOOT’ JOHN /BACKLASH AGAINST ‘HERO’ SMEATO )

F. "Police on Saturday maintained that it had not received any official confirmation that the person who rammed the flaming jeep into Glasgow airport in the botched UK terror plot and succumbed to burns after battling for life for over a month was Kafeel Ahmed.

"'We have not received any official confirmation that the man who drove the burning jeep into Glasgow airport and died of burns on August 2 was Kafeel Ahmed,' City Police Commissioner N Achutha Rao told reporters." - No confirmation about identity of Kafeel: Bangalore Police

"The family had first stoutly denied the driver of the jeep that rammed into the Glasgow airport terminal building on June 30 was their son but later told police that it appeared to be so from the TV grab." - No information from Britain on Kafeel: Bangalore police

"For Maqbool Ahmed and Zakhia Ahmed, the death may have compounded a traumatic dilemma; was he really their 27-year-old son?" - Kafeel's Parents Shut Themselves Away from Outside World

"In a welter of speculation, during which he was identified initially as being of Lebanese origin, Kafeel - or, as he was also originally referred to, Khalid - was thought to have been a doctor at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley...

"Prof Sheldon said: 'I can't believe it is the same boy. He was a lovely person when I knew him. I was in constant contact with him until last December, then silence.'

"Jamal Iweida, of the Belfast Islamic Centre, also put forward the image of a friendly, polite student. He said: 'He was a very pleasant, very placid, and friendly guy. He was very polite, intelligent, and intellectual. He was one of the main people in the society who organised very good activities about multiculturalism, inter-faith integration, and the like. They would invite speakers from other religions.'" - Airport bomber was 'shy, nervous student'

4. Some Past History

A. The 1605 Gunpowder plot in Britain was a government plot to discredit Catholics.

Robert Catesby, Thomas Percy and Francis Tresham, all agents of the British government, were involved in the planning of the Gunpowder plot.

On his death-bed, there were statements by Robert Catesby's servant that the government's spymaster Robert Cecil met Catesby on three occasions in the period leading up to the events of of 5 November 1605.

B. The Jubilee Plot of 1887 was a government plot.

In the 1880s, the Irish nationalists wanted independence from Britain. British Prime Minister Lord Salisbury, decided:

(1) to use a British government agent Francis Millen to organise a false flag operation to blow up Westminster Abbey, thus killing Queen Victoria.

(2) to have the plot discovered just in time - so that the Irish Nationalists would be discredited.

After the plot had been revealed, two Americans were arrested and sentenced to long periods in prison for conspiracy to commit terrorist acts. Francis Millen managed to escape to New York where he mysteriously died.

C. The London Bombings, 7 July 2005, reportedly had as their mastermind Rashid Aswat.

The authorities stated that Aswat had made mobile telephone calls to two of the 7 July bombers. ('Batley man' linked to bin Laden and bombers - Yorkshire Evening Post)

After Aswat was handed over to the UK police, Scotland Yard police headquarters said, on 7 August 2005, that detectives were not interested in speaking to Aswat about the London attacks. (

Reportedly, Aswat worked for MI6. (Haroon Rashid Aswat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Mohammed Siddique Khan, a key figure in the 7/7 London bombings, was probably working for British intelligence agency MI5 as an informant at the time of the attacks, according to Charles Shoebridge, a 12-year veteran detective of the London Metropolitan Police. (was on the payroll )
Shoebridge told the BBC Newshour program that from the evidence little else can be assumed other than that Khan was working for British intelligence.

"The amount of information coming out and the quality of information coming out. The fact that that has been so consistently overlooked it would appear by the security service MI5, to me suggests really only one of two options."

"Either, a) we've got a level of incompetence that would be unusual even for the security services. But b) possibly, and this is a possibility, that this man Khan may even have been working as an informant for the security service."

"It is difficult otherwise to see how it can be that they've so covered his tracks in the interim."

The Search For Smeato - John Smeaton - Glasgow Airport Attack He - Watch the top videos of the week here

D. MI5 activity in Scotland.

The Scotsman, 20 January 2005 - "MI5, the domestic security service, is preparing to establish a permanent office in Scotland for the first time, The Scotsman can reveal.

"As part of a major expansion of the organisation intended to bolster nationwide counter- terrorism efforts, MI5 chiefs and Home Office officials have identified Glasgow as the site for one of the service’s new regional offices." - (

E. The Lockerbie Bomb had connections to the security services. (aangirfan: The CIA and the Lockerbie Bomb)

"Luck saved us from another Lockerbie" was the headline in the The Scotsman, on 2nd July 2007. (

F. Operation Gladio was organised by 'fascists' within the security services of the West.

Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony:

'You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security."

Italian Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti revealed the existence of Gladio in 1991.

Parliamentary investigations in Italy, Switzerland and Belgium have given us a little of the truth.
The book "NATO's Secret Armies: Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe," by Daniele Ganser documents some of what we know.

Run by 'fascist' elements in NATO and the Pentagon, right-wing militias carried out acts of terrorism and electoral subversion in countries such as Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Turkey and West Germany.

G. Northern Ireland

According to The Observer:,,1869019,00.html

"A human rights watchdog has handed a report to the Police Service of Northern Ireland, which concludes that two British agents were central to the bombings of three army border installations in 1990

H. The Muslim Brotherhood is reported to work for the CIA and MI6. (aangirfan: The use of the Muslim Brotherhood by MI6 and the CIA in ...)

A number of Moslem doctors are reported to have joined the Muslim Brotherhood.

Doctors were involved in the Glasgow Airport attack.


According to Sukant Chandan at Al-Ahram:

"The SNP, the Liberal Democrats and the Greens are all opposed to the Iraq war and support British troops being withdrawn from Iraq. Furthermore, the SNP want independence from the United Kingdom.

"Given Al-Qaeda's ideological position of assuring countries immunity from attack if they are not partners in military campaigns against the Middle East, striking in Scotland does not make any sense.

"A terror attack against Scottish targets only jeopardises the Scottish people's aspirations for independence from the British government and their policies in London, and hence goes against Al-Qaeda's policy of encouraging anti-war administrations in the West.

"If the attack in Glasgow is an Al-Qaeda-inspired attack it shows the lack of sophistication on part of the attackers not just on the level of technical know- how, but politics as well."


The Scottish people tend to be anti-Iraq war and pro-Palestinians.

The Glasgow Airport incident looks like an action by a certain security service to turn the people of Scotland against Moslems and against the SNP.


2004-05: Kafeel Ahmed, Bilal Abdulla and Mohammed Asha first meet whilst staying at the Islamic Academy charitable trust in Cambridge.

August 2006: Abdulla takes up a post at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley.

April 28: Abdulla signs a lease on 6, Neuk Crescent, Houston, near Glasgow.

June 28: Allegedly Abdulla and Ahmed drive two Mercedes 'car bombs' to London and park them near the Tiger Tiger nightclub in Haymarket. Allegedly, they try to detonate them by remote control in the early hours of June 29 but they fail to go off.

June 30: Having driven back to Glasgow, Abdulla and Ahmed reportedly try to carry out a car bomb attack on Glasgow Airport but this fails. Reportedly, Ahmed dies later from burns.



Saturday, December 06, 2008

Mumbai, Andrew G Marshall, Karkare,

Amaresh Misra, on 3 December 2008, at, has an article entitled Mumbai Terror Attack: Further Evidence Of The Anglo-American-Mossad-RSS Nexus.

(The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, or RSS, is a 'fascist' Hindu group)

Among the points made:

1. According to Andrew G. Marshall: "The attacks prepare the ground for the break-up of Pakistan and the furtherance of destabilizing terrorism in the Middle East and Asia...

"The Anglo-American have undertaken, primarily through Iraq, a strategy of balkanizing the entire Middle East in a new imperial project." (See Marshall’s Divide and Conquer: The Anglo-American Imperial Project.)


2. The Marathi daily 'Maharashtra Times' said the terrorists who targeted Anti Terrorism Squad chief Hemant Karkare, police commissioner Ashok Kamte and encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar, were speaking Marathi fluently. (i.e. they were not from Kashmir or Pakistan)

Reportedly, traditional Jews from Mumbai, who have migrated to Israel, speak fluent Marathi and are known to have been recruited by Mossad.

Hemant Karkare

3. The death of Hemant Karkare remains a mystery. All official versions are contradictory: some say he was killed near CST (Rail Station), some that he died near Cama hospital, some near Metro cinema, and some that he was killed while in a Police jeep.

Also, where did the bullet hit him? Some say on the neck and some near the heart. Karkare was shown on TV wearing a bullet proof vest - he could not have been shot in neck in that case, unless there was a sniper waiting for him.

(According to the BBC (BBC NEWS World South Asia Mumbai police mourn their dead):

"Gunmen had hijacked a police van in southern Mumbai, which they later discarded.

"Police say as the suspects moved from Chatrapati Shivaji Terminus (CST, formerly Victoria Terminus) train station, they entered a lane which has access to important buildings like the Times of India office, Cama hospital and a school.

"They came onto the main road and went towards a multiplex cinema.

"Mr Karkare was shot at near Cama hospital and soon after the other two officers were also shot near the multiplex.

"It was at the junction near the multiplex that the militants opened fire at civilians and the media.

"Later they were intercepted at Chowpatty, the famous beach by Marine Drive.

"One of the two attackers was killed by police and the other was arrested.")

Mumbai Police from

4. Who were the Marathi speaking Karkare killers?

The lane next to the Cama Hospital is a deserted one - it goes straight to the backyard of the Mumbai CID Headquarters.

Anonymous sources in the Police have revealed that Karkare was taken there, by a joint team of anti-Karkare, pro-Hindutva (Hindu Nationalists) Mumbai Police officers, and Chota Rajan men (Gangsters).

Chotta Rajan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now Karkare was opposed to Chota Rajan. Salaskar was anti-Pradeep Sharma, another Mumbai senior Police officer now in jail, for working as Rajan's shooter.

So the Marathi speaking terrorists could either have been Jews with some connection to Mumbai - or hired killers of the Hindutva brigade or men of Chota Rajan.

5. It seems that several things went on simultaneously - the Mahrashtra Chief Minister Vilas Rao Deshmukh was in Kerala when the Mumbai attack began at 9.30 PM on 26th November.

Then by 11PM Deshmukh had informed the Home Minister Shivraj Patil - the latter has started proceedings to send the NSG Commandos.

So Deshmukh knew about what was happening by 11PM - then why was there no Mumbai Police on various locations between 9.30 and 1am, the time when Karkare arrived?

The Mumbai ATS is a separate organization. it does not lead the Mumbai Police.

So the 40,000 strong Mumbai Police was absent from the scene of action between 11pm to 1am and then Karkare arrived and he was killed along with his men!


Amaresh Misra is a freelance writer, historian and poet. He is the author of Mangal Pandey: The True Story of an Indian Revolutionary; Lucknow: Fire of Grace: The Story of Its Renaissance, Revolution and the Aftermath, and more recently War of Civilizations: The Road to Delhi and The Long Revolution. He can be contacted on


Friday, December 05, 2008


The Malagaon Blasts have been linked to officers in the Indian military (Photo:

Ayesha Ijaz Khan, 2 December 2008, asks Is Pakistan to Blame? (Main News)

Among the points she makes:

1. Indian television portrays Pakistan as the culprit of the 26/11 attacks in Mumbai.

(No doubt Indian TV, and Pakistan TV, are controlled by the CIA - Aangirfan)

2. Four times previously the Indian government falsely accused Lashkare Taiba of sponsoring violent incidents in India.

1. The Chittisinghpura massacre.

2. The attack on the Indian Parliament on 13 December 2001.

3. The Malagaon blasts.

4. The Samjhota Express incident.

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A. In the Chittisinghpura incident, on 20 March 2000, one day before President Bill Clinton was due to arrive in India, 35 Sikhs were killed in the village of Chattisinghpura.

It was said that about 15 uniformed men belonging to Lashkare Taiba and trained in Pakistan were responsible.

Five days later, five men were killed by paramilitary forces in a village called Pathribal, claiming that the “foreign militants” responsible for the Sikh massacre had been found and duly eliminated.

When local village people protested, investigations began.

When the final results of the investigation were made public, it was found that local police were responsible for the massacre of the Sikhs.

Lt Colonel Srikant Purohit, from Indian military intelligence, was reportedly involved in several blasts.

B. (The September 2006 Malegaon bombings were a series of bomb blasts that took place in Malegaon, a town in the Indian state of Maharashtra, some 290 km to the northeast of Mumbai.

The explosions killed at least 37 people.

According to Maharashtra Police, in November 2006, the blasts were the work of the Student Islamic Movement of India.[1]

However, on 8 November, 2008, the Maharashtra Anti Terror Squad revealed that Lt Colonel Srikant Purohit of the Indian military was involved in a blast that killed people in Malegaon in September 2007.

The Anti Terror Squad indicted Purohit for supplying the RDX used in the blasts. (ATS Investigations show Purohit procured RDX /Indian officer held over blasts )

The Anti Terror Squad has also found out that Purohit attended secret meetings of the 'fascist' Hindu group Abhinav Bharat.

It has been reported that Lt Col Srikant Prasad Purohit, the Army officer arrested in the Malegaon case, was involved in other blasts as well. (More detained as Purohit probe spreads to blast in Nanded 2006 ) )

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C. The Samjhota Express incident.

On 18 February 2007, two bombs went off near the Indian city of Panipat on the Samjhota Express, between Lahore and Delhi.

The terrorist attack, which killed 68 (mostly Pakistanis; On Indian soil) and injured many others was blamed once again on Lashkare Taiba.

Indian authorities claimed that the alleged perpetrator was named Rana Shaukat Ali and a photograph of the terrorist was provided.

Four months later, investigations revealed that neither Rana nor Lashkare Taiba but a serving lieutenant colonel of the Indian army, Lt. Col. Purohit was responsible for the attack.

Purohit, it was found, had links with Hindu militant groups and provided training to extremists.

3. For Pakistan, the most troubling aspect of the 26 November 2008 terror attacks in Mumbai is the fact that the three brave men who had been tasked with finalizing the findings of both the Samjhota Express incident and the Malegaon blasts linking Lt. Col. Purohit conclusively to the terrorist attacks were all killed.

Mr. Hemant Karkare, in charge of the investigation, was one of the first people shot by the terrorists, followed by DIG Ashok Kale and encounter specialist Vijay Salazar.

If this is a coincidence, it is definitely a godsend for the extremist Hindu groups and the right-wing BJP, waiting to unseat the Congress government in the upcoming elections. But many in Pakistan suspect something more sinister may be involved.

4. It is alleged that the perpetrators of the 26/11 violence entered Mumbai by sea and arrived by trawlers from Karachi.

Karachi is 500 nautical miles from Mumbai; not an easy distance to cover in a trawler.

Even if one were to assume that this was the case, India has twenty-one separate radar systems that monitor the coastal line between Karachi and Mumbai.

More importantly, Sir Creek is the un-demarcated boundary along the Arabian Sea and the Rann of Kutch, straddling Pakistan’s Sindh province and the Indian state of Gujarat.

This is both an international border and a source of dispute between India and Pakistan. The 1965 war between the two nations began at the Rann of Kutch.

In August 1999, a Pakistani surveillance aircraft was shot down by the Indian Air Force in the Rann of Kutch.

The area is heavily patrolled.

How the trawler made it all the way to Mumbai without being detected is a mystery, especially since fishermen on both sides of the border, both Indian and Pakistani, regularly find themselves apprehended as they mistakenly cross over into hostile territory.

Every year, both countries arrest hundreds of fishermen for illegal intrusion.

Fishermen complain that they don’t know whose side they are on because of the dispute.

Every time Pakistan and India decide to re-start their peace process, one of the first measures taken is the release of the poor fishermen, who are caught and detained, through no fault of their own, their boats confiscated upon arrest.

But somehow the trawler dodged all patrols and made it all the way to Mumbai.

Regular procedure for boats and ships docking at Mumbai entails thorough checks, but it appears that the terrorist trawler was able to evade that as well.

5. The main perpetrators of the Mumbai terrorism were the Israelis in Nariman House, the Germans at the two hotels, and the RSS at the other locations.

They were already in position in Mumbai on the 26th.

Finally one 'Pakistani' is produced after the fake incident, who sings the Indian hymn in perfect English of course.

6. The bodies of the 9 other "Terrorists" killed, and produced by the Mumbai authorities could be anyone.


Ayesha Ijaz Khan is a London-based lawyer and political commentator and can be contacted via her website


Europe knows a lot about CIA terrorism?

The Mumbai Attacks of November 2008, like the 9 11 attacks and the earlier Gladio attacks in Europe, would have required a lot of preparation and the cooperation of people within more than one security service.

From The Guardian, 5 December 1990 (here):

"Vincenzo Vinciguerra serving life for his part in the Peteano bombing...

"In 1984, questioned by Judges examining the 1980 Bologna station bomb in which 82 people were killed and for which two secret service agents were convicted, he said: 'With the massacre of Peteano, and with all those that have followed, the knowledge should by now be clear that there existed a real live structure, occult and hidden, with the capacity of giving a strategic direction to the outrages.' The structure, he said, 'lies within the state itself'."

Some Americans are unaware of the long history of terror events in Europe, which have been used, reportedly, to advance the agenda of the CIA and Pentagon.

Wayne Madsen ( has some most interesting information about Mumbai.

But his analysis of the event may be not accurate.

There seems to be an attempt, by Wayne Madsen and others, to blame the Mumbai Attacks on gangster Dawood Ibrahim alone.

It is unlikely that Ibrahim on his own could have carried out these attacks, just as it is unlikely that Osama bin Laden's organisation on its own could have carried out the 9 11 attacks.

Dawood Ibrahim

Reportedly, Dawood Ibrahim, like Osama bin Laden, has worked for the CIA.

Reportedly, Ibrahim is in Quetta, in Pakistan. Some bloggers believe he is angry because the CIA might arrange for him to be handed over to India.

In our view, it seems fairly unlikely that the CIA have stopped using Ibrahim and fairly unlikely that they will hand him over to India.

Wayne Madsen ( provides the following fascinating material about the Mumbai Attacks:

1. The security camera shot of Qasab, the “lone surviving gunman,” appears fake.

"The angle is too narrow for a train station which would have a wider angle and be shot from higher up than the photo being shopped by the Indian police."

2. According to Asian intelligence sources, Qasab may have been trained by Hindu militants.

3. One Asian intelligence source reports that he has “never seen a haircut like his (Qasab’s) in Pakistan or on either side of Line of Control in Kashmir.”

4. He also pointed out that Qasab is a bit overweight for an average “mujad” who get slim in training by exercising and by eating a sparse diet of lentils and flat bread.


5. The Trident-Oberoi Hotel had a large number of Israeli businessmen staying there while attending a diamond exhibition.

According to Asian intelligence sources a large number of Mossad officers used the Trident-Oberoi as a base of operations, along with the ultra-Orthodox Jewish Chabad House.

6. The Oberoi hostages were shot in the back of their heads, 'a typical gangland execution method preferred by Ibrahim and not the firing squad method used by LET.'


Wednesday, December 03, 2008

Mumbai and Gladio


It appears that the Mumbai Attacks involved 'white men' who may have been 'mercenaries' employed by certain security services.

It appears there were also non-white patsies, who were there to take the blame.

At, 1 December 2008, Sandhya Jain tells us about the cover-up in Mumbai.

Among the points made:

1. "By no logic can anyone believe that nine separate sites in a city could be held to ransom by just 10 men.

2. has interviewed the doctors who conducted the post-mortems on the dead hostages and terrorists.

"Doctors who conducted the post-mortem said the bodies of the terrorists – especially their faces - were beyond recognition."

(This might suggest that the 'white mercenaries' killed off the patsies and made sure their faces could not be recognised.)

"The NSG commandos never got to ... close range with the terrorists...

"This suggests the presence of a mysterious third party...

3. "Top Russian counter-terrorism expert, Vladimir Klyukin, an Afghan war veteran, opines that the Mumbai attackers were not 'ordinary terrorists' and were probably trained by the special operations forces set up in Pakistan by US intelligence prior to the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan.

"In his view, the nature of the Mumbai events suggests the signature of the ‘Green Flag’ special operations forces created by the Americans in Pakistan, just a year before the Soviet withdrawal...

"The Russian Interfax news agency reported the former KGB veteran as surmising the involvement of at least 50 terrorists, given the geography and sheer scale of the attacks...

"Initial investigations ... suggested that as many as seven terrorists included mostly British-born Pakistanis...

"Reports ... suggested some (not just one) gunmen were captured.... So there is a lot of confusion here that needs to be cleared up...

4. "The death of (some of the) terrorists points to a clear double-cross and also the possibility of the involvement of more than one religious denomination.

5. "It is pertinent that the recovery of a satellite phone from the trawler abandoned with the body of the Gujarati captain revealed that the trawler had been hijacked to Karachi Port, and while there, calls were made even to Australia (where the CIA has a famous outpost!)"

The author is Editor,
Source and the more original source here

The Mumbai Attacks look like a repeat of Operation Gladio.

A. In Belgium, in the mid-80s, hooded gunmen walked into crowded supermarkets and began firing away.

The massacres were later discovered to be linked to Belgium’s Gladio unit.

Operation Gladio was a CIA-NATO enterprise.

“The Supermarket massacres occurred during the period when the U.S. was pushing a plan to base the Euro-Missiles (nuclear-tipped Cruise missiles) in different European countries...

"The Belgian Parliament, which investigated the incidents, felt that they were another attempt to sow confusion and fear among the populace, thereby generating public outcries for a law-and-order government which would be amenable to the Euro-Missles.” - (

B. In Italy, “Gelli’s P2 and elements within the Vatican ... working in conjunction with the CIA, aligned itself with criminals, corrupt police, and high government officials to discredit the emerging Left and stage a fascist coup...

"On behalf of democracy, the Mafia enlisted as their agent Salvatore Giuliano. He and his cousin Gaspere Pisciotta led their men into Portella della Ginestra.

"Without prejudice, they shot and killed a dozen people and wounded more than fifty others.

"New elections were held, and the Christian Democratic party won a resounding victory." - (


Tuesday, December 02, 2008

Dawood Ibrahim and the Mumbai Attacks of November 2008

Dawood Ibrahim

It is not clear to what extent Dawood Ibrahim may be working with the CIA, Mossad, ISI and other security services.

Wayne Madsen sees Dawood Ibrahim as having a link to the Bombay Attacks of November 2008.

On 2 December 2008, Wayne Madsen made the following points in an article entitled More evidence of CIA-backed syndicate involvement in Mumbai attacks

1. In May 2008, Pakistan's Prime Minister Gillani reportedly agreed to hand Dawood Ibrahim over to India.

Reportedly, some people in Washington encouraged this move.

Dawood Ibrahim, a 'gangster' originally from Bombay, is said to have worked for the CIA in the past.

Reportedly, Ibrahim has been protected by Pakistan's intelligence service ISI.

Reportedly, The CIA is fearful that if Ibrahim is handed over to India, he will reveal details of the CIA’s links to criminal activities and terrorist attacks.

2. Pakistan's President Zardari is a business rival of Ibrahim and would be happy to see Ibrahim out of the country.

3. Ibrahim, reportedly, was involved in the recent violence in Bombay, and he may have been sending a signal to India and to others, including rival gangsters.

Reportedly, Ibrahim wants to send a message to Hindu gangsters that he is not giving up control of Mumbai’s gangland to Shiv Sena.

4. Ibrahim reportedly has his agents within the security forces of India and Pakistan and has a lot of information on CIA activities.

Reportedly, Ibrahim has joint casino interests with the CIA in Kathmandu.

Reportedly, this involves money laundering for top Indian politicians.

5. Indian police have reported they have seven small boats in their custody that were used by the Mumbai terrorists.

Reportedly, the boats are inflatables used by Ibrahim’s commandos who landed on the Mumbai seafront.

6. Reportedly, Chabad House in Mumbai is used by the Israeli military and intelligence and by the Israeli Mafia.

Reportedly, Bangkok police suspects that Bankok's Chabad House is a center for the Israeli drugs Mafia.

The Israeli Mafia also reportedly runs heroin labs in Myanmar (Burma).

7. The Taj Mahal Palace hotel in Mumbai got burnt.

The Taj Mahal is linked to the Tata family which reportedly stands to make a fortune from the U.S.-India nuclear technology sharing pact as a defense supplier for India’s future modernized nuclear arsenal.


David Sassoon (1792 – 1864) was the leader of the Jewish community in Bombay (now Mumbai).

Sassoon started an opium business.

Reportedly he eventually controlled 50% of the world’s opium. The Sassoon fleet shipped around the world from China to America

His son married into the Rothschild family.


Mumbai Attacks, the BJP, Israel,

There will be elections in a few months in India, and the BJP (right-wing Hindu 'fascist' party with links to Israel) are all too eager to win.

Some of the Mumbai gunmen appear to have been beer-drinking white men, according to a BBC report.

According to the BBC, 27 November 2008 (BBC NEWS Mumbai attackers create 'killing zone'):

"The 'foreign looking, fair skinned' men, as Mr Mishra remembers them, simply carried on killing...

"Officials say that of the more than 100 people who died in Wednesday’s attacks by a group of unidentified gunmen, the majority of the dead were commuters waiting to get on to trains at the station...

Thanks to the Israelis, many people were killed at Sabra and Shatila.

" Three men walked into the cafe, drank beer, settled their bills and walked out. Then they fished out guns from their bags and began firing.

"Gaffar Abdul Amir, an Iraqi tourist from Baghdad, says he saw at least two men who started the firing outside the Leopold Cafe.

"He was returning to his hotel from the seaside with a friend when he saw two men carrying bags and brandishing AK-47s walking in front of them, shooting.

"'They did not look Indian, they looked foreign. One of them, I thought, had blonde hair. The other had a punkish hairstyle. They were neatly dressed,' says Mr Amir.

Israelis kill kids.

Mostaque Ali has some fascinating material on the Bombay Attacks.

Among the points made:

Response to comment.

1. "There will be elections in a few months in India, and the BJP (right-wing Hindu 'fascist' party with links to Israel) are all too eager to win.

"The RSS (Militant Hindu nationalist group) would like the BJP to win.

"The Israelis, would like the BJP to win.

"A false flag of this type in Mumbai ... makes the Congress party (chief member of the ruling
United Progressive Alliance coalition - the present government) look like fumbling idiots, soft on Muslims and terrorists...

"Next a brave hero by the name of Hemant Kakare, Anti Terrorist Squad chief of Mumbai, finally connects the dots in India, and uncovers that a lot of the bombs going off in India are ... the work of Hindu extremists in India, with linkages to a few security personnel...

"What happens to Mr. Hemant Kakare? He is killed in possibly the first encounter with the Israeli place (Nariman House), in Mumbai...

"Israel would like India, WITH A NEW BJP GOVERNMENT, to adopt a more hostile posture against Pakistan, and possibly join an attack against Pakistan in the future, with America in toe.

Hindu friends of Israel

2. The gunmen "were said to be looking for British and American passports holders... Smokescreen. False trail. That was not their real purpose.

"If you are looking for a lot of British and American tourists, all they had to do was take the Uzi or Heckler-Koch to the beaches of Goa, and attack there, AND not Mumbai VT (railway station), which is filled ... with... Indians...

"By killing a lot of Hindu Indians it creates sympathy for the RSS cause..."

3. Apparently the gunmen "were based in Nariman House, a guest house for Israelis. Strange place for a 'muslim terrorist' to find a bed and food...

"This is what I think actually happened.

"Israeli Commando's were invited by the RSS there to stage a fire fight with Hemant Kakare's people, where he would be killed...

"The siege of Nariman house would continue, for days, creating false publicity about Muslim extremism (hence the huge quantity of food ordered), and then a negotiated release;

"Israeli commandos escape as freed hostages...

"The Indian government scotched that idea by declining Israeli offers of assistence quite early on, AND dealing with Nariman house quite quickly.

"Some Indian commandos stated that they only saw white people fighting against them when they entered Nariman house."

Israelis kill kids

4. "There may have been four separate groups working within one aim, and organization headed by the Israelis and RSS. Each groups operate in their own area of responsibility:

1. RSS members; its their home turf, so they a need piece of the action.

2. Nariman House.......looks like Israeli Commandos.

3. The Hotels, or areas near the hotel, looks like mercenary forces, possibly German.

4. Toss into the whole lot a confused ass hole or two who think they are fighting for a Muslim cause.....token, who are managed by the Israelis, and provided by MI5.

"The above 3 groups escape detection (The ones that did the real harm) as planned by the RSS, AND Israelis, but not group number 4.

"Then with the mass of contradictions circulating, you present the captured 'terrorist'...

"The only terrorist captured by Indian authorities following the Mumbai attacks told interrogators during questioning that he and his men were sent specifically to kill Israelis to avenge 'atrocities' against the Palestinians", the Times of India reported.

"Didn't we have reports earlier that the terrorists were seeking UK, and USA citizens only.

"Now according to the Times of India they were only seeking Israelis in Mumbai VT (train station)? of all places. Why not go to Goa, or the Hill stations in the North where everybody in India knows, given their unique behavior, where Israelis stay?

And who actually got killed the most........Indians.

Why were alleged non-Jews allowed to stay 2 weeks, amass huge logistics, in an Orthodox Jewish run place?

5. BJP coup? Hindi speakers.

According to RAJANISH KAKADE, Associated Press (Mumbai cop, left for dead, rides with gunmen (AP)):

"The young gunmen said little during the harrowing drive, but spoke Hindi with a strong Punjabi, north-Indian accent."

(From Haryana, Punjab, Himachal Pradesh or Delhi resident)